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Development tools?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:38 pm
by Trygve
These MAY be the development tools used to build the software on the Alpha-400:

http://www.ingenic.cn/eng/productServ/k ... mPage.aspx

Unfortunately, I don't know which specific CPU is used in the machine yet(the thing is not that easy to take apart... ), or which settings or changes have been implemented by Belco.

Also, a lot of the documentation is in Chinese...
(Just like the docs and files included with the Alpha... )

Maybe someone who knows a bit or two about C/C++ and Linux development can make heads or tails of it?
(First suggestion is to make a file manager/viewer which ignores the 'hidden' flag so that we can see exactly what is on the FLASH drive... )

Re: Development tools?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:36 am
by Gopal
I think these files are relevant: http://www.xiptech.com/download.htm
They have an SDK and a Ximulator

And since the "Skytone Alpha 400" and "3K RazorBook 400" is the same machine. I guess something might eventually show up at these pages:
http://www.skytone.net.cn/EN_down.php?fid=17&aid=36 and http://www.3kcomputers.com/shop/index.p ... oductId=57

More about the CPU: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS7767917766.html

Re: Development tools?

PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:08 pm
by Trygve
I see that the SkyTone site has the manuals online, which is nice for those who want to check them out before buying :-)
(Incidentally, there was a 'Skytone' picture file on the CD that came with my BestLink machine)

The 3K machine may look similar, but it is also listed as having 512MB RAM and 4GB FLASH, and possibly also external VGA. (Which may explain the 'danger, do not use' button on the Alpha-400...)

This makes me wonder exactly how similar they are on the inside...
(I haven't been able to pull it apart, yet. There's some problems around the hinges on the bottom half... )

Re: Development tools?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2008 2:04 am
by Gopal
More suppliers of the same machine: http://www.liliputing.com/2008/07/3k-ra ... amily.html

Re: Development tools?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:18 am
by tommy-turtle
Trygve wrote:This makes me wonder exactly how similar they are on the inside...
(I haven't been able to pull it apart, yet. There's some problems around the hinges on the bottom half... )



Hello

I have one on it way to add to the Osram(sylvania/digital gadgets) and eee surf, Just wondering if the ram can be updated with ease? any one taken the back off yet with photos? I have the 512 ram from the surf and was wondering if it could be used for it. Or adding a ssd drive inside so the Kernel could be changed.
I know why buy a $160.00 laptop just to put $40.00 more parts in it when an EEE could be bought on eBay for cheaper. I just wanted the challenge and the more I play with ubuntu the more I an getting sucked in more. Also having 2 friends that are deaf I am trying to get a small cheep machine that they can carry with them and use as a communication device between the deaf and talking world with out a translator. Sorry getting off topic. Any photos fo tha back side.

I should have it here in a day or two to see what can be done on the inside

Re: Development tools?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:24 am
by Trygve
You CAN change the kernel of the alpha-400.

There IS a 2.6 version available on one site (mentioned in another thread here)

There's also a new distro in development for the machine.
(I hope to have time to play with it during Christmas)

The entire OS and all 'user generated' files and third party programs are all installed on the same 1GB(2GB on some models) Flash SSD.

I have no idea if it's possible to upgrade the memory on it.

Re: Development tools?

PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:16 am
by tommy-turtle
Thanks for the reply.

I will let you know on the ram card next week hope. Did see the post about tweaking the kernel and it look like in some of the other forums that some have had success some have not in the upgrade. There is 30 more questions to ask, but let me get it first to compare.

what I think is funny is there is many forums in Europe for the alpha400 but not one in the US. Well thanks for letting me play on your side of the pond and according to fed ex it should be here tomorrow. hopefully by this time tomorrow it is not busted and ripped apart to see. wonder if jkkmobil is going to get one of these to tweak.